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Trois choses importantes :
Le vote est très long. Merci de faire une synthèse digeste sur une ligne du type "1) A 2) C 3) B ...". Le gars qui dépouillera vous remercie. Évitez absolument de citer le message initial.

Ne postez ici que votre vote. Pour le débat, il y a le sujet "le futur du format".

Essayez de donner votre avis pour le 12 Septembre.

Voici la bête:

Ok guys this is the big one for 2015-2016. Below are the questions outlined for the vote for 2015-2016 armycomp restrictions so we can get right into it and prepare for the coming year. You have until Thursday to suggest changes, Thursday evening the vote goes live. We are revoting on older issues again as well because with potentially opening things up nuances might change and we thought it best to include them again to avoid any misgivings about that later in the year. Once we get all the army comp stuff out of the way we can have a look at mission design. If you have anything to say regarding feel free to open up a topic for discussion.

1. Factions on the team level
a) Every faction only once per team. This means that the Eldar Faction can only ever be present in any single armylist within a given team
b) Every faction can be present twice per team. Once as a primary detachment and once as another type of detachment *
*** If this option is chosen further restriction votes on the team level will follow

2. Number of detachments at the player level.
a) stick to 2
b) change the number of detachments at the player level – see item 3 –

3. Indicate how many detachments (from 1-5) you would like an army to field maximally. All numbers will be counted and an average will be made, rounding up. An average of 5 will amount to unlimited detachments allowed.

4. Will we allow a given single players army to field several same faction detachments or dataslates?
a) Yes – see question 5 -
b) No

5. Only to be taken into account when option 4A is chosen as a majority
a) Only allow it when one of the Detachments is a formation or dataslate
b) Allow regardless of the type of Detachment that is chosen

6. Only to be taken into account when option 5b is chosen
a) Allow duplicate CAD Detachments within a given army *
b) Allow duplicate CAD Detachments within a given army ONLY if they are of a different faction *
c) Do not allow duplicate CAD Detachments within a given army *
*** Combined votes of a and b will be compared to total votes for c to see if duplicate CAD will be allowed or not

7. Only to be taken into account when option 5b is chosen
a) Allow duplicate formations to be taken within a given army
b) Allow duplicate formations to be taken within a given army but only as part of a Decurion or Warhost type of Detachment
c) Do not allow ANY duplicate formations not even as part of a Decurion or Warhost type of Detachment

8. Only to be taken into account when option 5b is chosen
a) Allow duplicate Allied Detachments within a given army *
b) Allow duplicate Allied Detachments within a given army ONLY if they are of a different faction *
c) Do not allow duplicate Allied Detachments within a given army *
*** Combined votes of a and b will be compared to total votes for c to see if duplicate Allied Detachments will be allowed or not

9. Only to be taken into account when option 5b is chosen
a) Allow several Dataslates within a given army *
b) Allow several Dataslates within a given army ONLY if they are of a different faction *
c) Do not allow more than one Dataslate within a given army *
*** Combined votes of a and b will be compared to total votes for c to see how dataslates will be restricted. Dataslates that can be induced into an army as an HQ choice or such like Belakor or Cypher, do not count for the purpose of this vote.

10. Will we play with Super Heavy Vehicles or Gargantuan Creatures at the ETC?
a) Yes
b) No

11. Only valid if option 10a is chosen
a) No further restrictions on the amount of Gargantuan Creatures per army or team
b) Restrictive amount of Gargantuan Creatures per army or team

12. Only valid if option 11b was chosen
a) restrictions based on amount of GC on the team or army level
b) restrictions based on the type of GC on the team or army level

13. only valid if option 12a was chosen
a) Restrict amount of Gargantuans on the team level – see question 14
b) Restrict amount of Gargantuans on the army level – see question 15

14. Only valid if option 13a is chosen
a) maximum 1 Gargantuan Creature per team
b) maximum 2 Gargantuan Creatures per team
c) maximum 3 Gargantuan Creatures per team
d) more than 3 allowed per team

15. Only valid if option 13b is chosen
a) maximum 1 GC per army
b) maximum 2 GC per army
c) maximum 3 GC per army
d) more than 3 allowed per army

16. claryfing vote for vote 15
a) Only 1 Gargantuan Creature of a certain type per army
b) Only 2 Gargantuan Creatures of a certain type per army
c) more than 2 GC of a certain type per army

17. Only valid if option 10a is chosen
a) No further restrictions on the amount of SHV per army or team
b) Restrictive amount of SHV per army or team

18. Only valid if option 17b was chosen
a) restrictions based on amount of SHV on the team or army level
b) restrictions based on the type of SHV on the team or army level

19. only valid if option 18a was chosen
a) Restrict amount of SHV on the team level – see question 20
b) Restrict amount of SHV on the army level – see question 21

20. Only valid if option 19a is chosen
a) maximum 1 SHV per team
b) maximum 2 SHV per team
c) maximum 3 SHV per team
d) more than 3 allowed per team

21. Only valid if option 19b is chosen
a) maximum 1 SHV per army
b) maximum 2 SHV per army
c) maximum 3 SHV per army
d) more than 3 allowed per army

22. claryfing vote for vote 21
a) Only 1 SHV of a certain type per army
b) Only 2 SHV of a certain type per army
c) more than 2 SHV of a certain type per army

23. Will we allow Dataslates at the ETC
a) Yes *
b) No *
*** Indicate if you would like to have some restrictions in place in case majority decides to go with yes. This will require more votes and discussion

24. Will we allow White Dwarf Entries at the ETC
a) Yes *
b) No *
*** Indicate if you would like to have some restrictions in place in case majority decides to go with yes. This will require more votes and discussion

25. Will we allow online only formations like the Skyhammer Formation at the ETC
a) Yes *
b) No *
*** Indicate if you would like to have some restrictions in place in case majority decides to go with yes. This will require more votes and discussion

26. Will we allow the use of Campain Book entries at the ETC
a) Yes *
b) No *
*** Indicate if you would like to have some restrictions in place in case majority decides to go with yes. This will require more votes and discussion

27. Will we allow the use of Escalation book entries at the ETC
a) Yes *
b) No *
*** Indicate if you would like to have some restrictions in place in case majority decides to go with yes. This will require more votes and discussion

28. Will we allow the use of Stronghold Assault at the ETC
a) Yes *
b) No *
*** Indicate if you would like to have some restrictions in place in case majority decides to go with yes. This will require more votes and discussion

29. Shall we adjust the pointsize (1850) played at the ETC?
a) Yes
b) No

30. Only valid if 29a was chosen as an option
a) 1750 pts
b) 1650 pts
c) 1500 pts

31. Use ETC WFB 2015 pairing process ( voir le sujet dédié sur ce forum qui explique cette proposition)
a/ yes
b/ no, use ETC 40k 2015 pairing process

32. Add terrain (je pense qu'il voulait dire "table") choice by players who have been put forward in the WFB pairing process
a/ yes
b/ no
As soon as this vote is over, a new vote will be set up to discuss the fineprint from vote 23-30, as well as votes around missiondesign and the pairing process.


Bon vote!

1)A ; 2)B ; 3)4 ; 4)A ; 5)B ; 6)C ; 7)B ; 8)B ; 9)A ; 10)A ; 11)B ; 12)A ; 13)A ; 14)C ; 15)A ; 16)A ; 18)B ; 19)B ; 20)C ; 21)D ; 22)A ; 23)A ; 24)A ; 25)A ; 26)A ; 27)B ; 28)B ; 29)B ; 30)A ; 31)A ; 32)B

1)a
2)a
3)2
4)b
5)a
6)c
7)c
8)c
9)c
10)b
11)b
12)b
13)a
14)a
15)a
16)a
17)b
18)b
19)a
20)a
21)a
22)a
23)b
24)a
25)a
26)b
27)b
28)b
29)b
30)a
31)b
32)a

edit madBiker : VOTE A REMETTRE EN FORME

1. a)

2. a)

3. Just 2 detachments (and fuck Unbound)

4.a)

5. c)

6. 4 b) again. However, we will never cross the CAD.

7. a)
And, 7 b) is a stupid answer. Duplicate formations MUST be always allowed in a Warhost or a Decurion. It's a special kind of detachment.

8. b)

9.c) Do not allow more than one Dataslate within a given army

10. a)

11. b)

12. b)

13. b)

14. I've said 13 b).

15. a)

16. a) Only 1 Gargantuan Creature of a certain type per army (I can't be more understandable)

17. b)

18. b)

19. b)

20. I've said 19 b)

21. a) One big per army.

22. a) One big per army.

23. a)

24. a)

25. a)

26. a)

27. b) It's a crap.

28. b) It's the other crap.

29. b) I've more than 8k points of armies. And I want play with it.

30. Fuck you. 1850 forever.

31. b)

32. b) It's a waste of time. And it piss me off.

edit madBiker : VOTE A REMETTRE EN FORME

1)a2)a3)b4)no5)a6)c7)c8)c9)c10)a11)b12)a13)a14)c15)c16)c17)b18)a19)a20)c21)c22)c23)a24)a25)a26)a27)b28)a29)a30)b31)a32)a

La raison pour laquelle je demande des mises en forme spécifiques c'est pour pouvoir dépouiller plus facilement. Alors oui c'est moche, mais svp mettez vos réponses sur une seule ligne. Merci d'avance.

1)a 2)a 3)3 4)a 5)a 6)c 7)b 8)b 9)c 10)a 11)b 12)a 13)b 14)- 15)a 16)a 17)b 18)a 19)b 20)- 21)a 22)a 23)a no 24)b no 25)b 26)a no 27)a no 28)a no 29)a 30)b 31)a 32)a

1.a) 2.b) 3.5) 4.a) 5. b) 6.b) 7.b) 8.b) 9.a) 10.a) 11.b) 12.a) 13.b) 14.a) 15.a) 16.a) 17.b) 18 a) 19.b) 20.a) 21.a) 22.a) 23.a) 24.a) 25.b) 26.a) 27.b) 28.a) 29.a) 30.a)

a voté

1) A ; 2) B ; 3) 5 ; 4) A ; 5) A ; 6) C ; 7)B ; 8 ) B ; 9) B ; 10) A ; 11) B ; 12) A ; 13) A ; 14) C ; 15) A ; 16) A ; 17) B ; 18) A ; 19) A ; 20) C ; 21) C ; 22) C ; 23) A ; 24) A ; 25) A ; 26) A ; 27) A ; 28) A ; 29) B ; 30) A ; 31) A ; 32 ) B

1) A ; 2) B ; 3) 5 ; 4) A ; 5) A ; 6) C ; 7)B ; 8 ) B ; 9) B ; 10) A ; 11) B ; 12) A ; 13) A ; 14) C ; 15) A ; 16) A ; 17) B ; 18) A ; 19) A ; 20) C ; 21) C ; 22) C ; 23) A ; 24) A ; 25) A ; 26) A ; 27) A ; 28) A ; 29) B ; 30) A ; 31) A ; 32 ) B

1)A; 2)B; 3)5; 4)A; 5)A; 6)C; 7)B; 8)B; 9)B; 10)A; 11)B; 12)A; 13)B; 14)D; 15)D; 16)C; 17)B; 18)A; 19)B; 20)D; 21)D; 22)C; 23)A; 24)A; 25)A; 26)A; 27)B; 28)B; 29)B; 30)A; 31)B; 32)B

1. a 2. b  3. 3 4. a 5. b 6. c 7. b 8. c 9. a 10.a 11.b 12.b 13.b 14.d 15.d  16.a  17.b 18.b  19.a  20.d 21.d 22.a  23.a  24.a 25.a 26.a  27.b 28.a  29.b 30.a 31.a 32.a


A quand Forgeworld
edit madbiker : fyi certains pays l'ont proposé ... mais trop minoritaire pour l'instant (bien que par exemple joué aux US)
Le Gob,

A voté !

1. a) ; 2. b) ; 3. 5; 4. a) ; 5. b) ; 6. a) ; 7. b) ; 8. a) ; 9. a) ; 10. a) ; 11. b) ; 12. a) ; 13. b) ; 14. a) ; 15. a) ; 16. a) ; 17. b) ; 18. a) ; 19. b) ; 20. d) ; 21. d) ; 22. c) ; 23. a) ; 24. a) ; 25. a) ; 26. a) ; 27. a) ; 28. a) ; 29. a) ; 30. c)

Tout pareil que Tutur

1. a) ; 2. b) ; 3. 5; 4. a) ; 5. b) ; 6. a) ; 7. b) ; 8. a) ; 9. a) ; 10. a) ; 11. b) ; 12. a) ; 13. b) ; 14. a) ; 15. a) ; 16. a) ; 17. b) ; 18. a) ; 19. b) ; 20. d) ; 21. d) ; 22. c) ; 23. a) ; 24. a) ; 25. a) ; 26. a) ; 27. a) ; 28. a) ; 29. a) ; 30. c)

1.b) 2.b) 3.5) 4.a) 5.b) 6.a) 7.a) 8.a) 9.a) 10.a) 11.a) 12.a) 13.b) 14.d) 15.d) 16.c) 17.a) 18.a) 19.b) 20.d) 21.d) 22.c) 23.a) 24.a) 25.a) 26.a) 27.a) 28.a) 29.a) 30.c) 31.a) 32.a)

1)A ; 2)B ; 3)4 ; 4)A ; 5)B ; 6)C ; 7)B ; 8)B ; 9)A ; 10)A ; 11)B ; 12)A ; 13)A ; 14)C ; 15)A ; 16)A ; 18)B ; 19)B ; 20)C ; 21)D ; 22)A ; 23)A ; 24)A ; 25)A ; 26)A ; 27)B ; 28)B ; 29)B ; 30)A ; 31)A ; 32)B

1.a); 2.b); 3.3; 4.a); 5.b); 6.a); 7.b); 8.c); 9.c); 10.b); 11.b); 12.a); 13.a); 14.a); 15.a); 16.a); 17.b); 18.a); 19. a); 20.a); 21.a); 22.a); 23.a); 24.a); 25.a); 26.a); 27.b); 28.a); 29.b); 30.a); 31.b); 32.a

1. b / 2. b / 3. 3 / 4. b / 5. a / 6. a / 7. a / 8. a / 9 a / 10. a / 11. b / 12 a / 13. a / 14. a / 15. a / 16. a / 17. b / 18. a / 19. a / 20. a / 21. a / 22. a / 23. a / 24. a / 25. b / 26. a / 27. a / 28. a / 29. b / 30. a / 31. a / 32. a

1. a) ; 2. b) ; 3. 5; 4. a) ; 5. b) ; 6. a) ; 7. b) ; 8. a) ; 9. a) ; 10. a) ; 11. b) ; 12. a) ; 13. b) ; 14. a) ; 15. a) ; 16. a) ; 17. b) ; 18. a) ; 19. b) ; 20. d) ; 21. d) ; 22. c) ; 23. a) ; 24. a) ; 25. a) ; 26. a) ; 27. a) ; 28. a) ; 29. a) ; 30. c)

thread locké le temps du comptage.

Résultat du sondage.
Je rappelle que ceci n'est rien qu'un sondage et que l'important, c'est ce qui sortira du vote ETC en cours, résultat d'ici 2 semaines environ.
Je n'ai compté que les votes correctement formattés, j'avais prévenu, sinon c'est trop long à dépouiller.
Le résultat en gras est celui majoritaire.


1. Factions on the team level
a) Every faction only once per team. This means that the Eldar Faction can only ever be present in any single armylist within a given team
b) Every faction can be present twice per team. Once as a primary detachment and once as another type of detachment *
*** If this option is chosen further restriction votes on the team level will follow

37 A ; 2 B

2. Number of detachments at the player level.
a) stick to 2
b) change the number of detachments at the player level – see item 3 –


7 A ; 32 B

3. Indicate how many detachments (from 1-5) you would like an army to field maximally. All numbers will be counted and an average will be made, rounding up. An average of 5 will amount to unlimited detachments allowed.

1: 2 , 2: 1, 3: 10, 4: 2, 5: 16
Moyenne pondérée de 3,93 soit presque 4.

4. Will we allow a given single players army to field several same faction detachments or dataslates?
a) Yes – see question 5 -
b) No

33 A ; 5 B

5. Only to be taken into account when option 4A is chosen as a majority
a) Only allow it when one of the Detachments is a formation or dataslate
b) Allow regardless of the type of Detachment that is chosen

16 A ; 23 B

6. Only to be taken into account when option 5b is chosen
a) Allow duplicate CAD Detachments within a given army *
b) Allow duplicate CAD Detachments within a given army ONLY if they are of a different faction *
c) Do not allow duplicate CAD Detachments within a given army *
*** Combined votes of a and b will be compared to total votes for c to see if duplicate CAD will be allowed or not

11 A ; 7 B ; 20 C , A + B < C

7. Only to be taken into account when option 5b is chosen
a) Allow duplicate formations to be taken within a given army
b) Allow duplicate formations to be taken within a given army but only as part of a Decurion or Warhost type of Detachment
c) Do not allow ANY duplicate formations not even as part of a Decurion or Warhost type of Detachment

Q7: 6 A ; 27 B ; 5 C


8. Only to be taken into account when option 5b is chosen
a) Allow duplicate Allied Detachments within a given army *
b) Allow duplicate Allied Detachments within a given army ONLY if they are of a different faction *
c) Do not allow duplicate Allied Detachments within a given army *
*** Combined votes of a and b will be compared to total votes for c to see if duplicate Allied Detachments will be allowed or not

12 A ; 14 B ; 12 C ; A+B > C


9. Only to be taken into account when option 5b is chosen
a) Allow several Dataslates within a given army *
b) Allow several Dataslates within a given army ONLY if they are of a different faction *
c) Do not allow more than one Dataslate within a given army *
*** Combined votes of a and b will be compared to total votes for c to see how dataslates will be restricted. Dataslates that can be induced into an army as an HQ choice or such like Belakor or Cypher, do not count for the purpose of this vote.

20 A ; 5 B ; 14 C ; A+B > C


10. Will we play with Super Heavy Vehicles or Gargantuan Creatures at the ETC?
a) Yes
b) No

30 A ; 9 B

11. Only valid if option 10a is chosen
a) No further restrictions on the amount of Gargantuan Creatures per army or team
b) Restrictive amount of Gargantuan Creatures per army or team

7 A ; 31 B

12. Only valid if option 11b was chosen
a) restrictions based on amount of GC on the team or army level
b) restrictions based on the type of GC on the team or army level

32 A ; 4 B

13. only valid if option 12a was chosen
a) Restrict amount of Gargantuans on the team level – see question 14
b) Restrict amount of Gargantuans on the army level – see question 15

16 A ; 20 B


14. Only valid if option 13a is chosen
a) maximum 1 Gargantuan Creature per team
b) maximum 2 Gargantuan Creatures per team
c) maximum 3 Gargantuan Creatures per team
d) more than 3 allowed per team

13 A ; 1 B ; 8 C ; 12 D



15. Only valid if option 13b is chosen
a) maximum 1 GC per army
b) maximum 2 GC per army
c) maximum 3 GC per army
d) more than 3 allowed per army

26 A ; 1 B ; 2 C ; 6D

16. claryfing vote for vote 15
a) Only 1 Gargantuan Creature of a certain type per army
b) Only 2 Gargantuan Creatures of a certain type per army
c) more than 2 GC of a certain type per army

28 A ; 0 B ; 8 C

17. Only valid if option 10a is chosen
a) No further restrictions on the amount of SHV per army or team
b) Restrictive amount of SHV per army or team

6 A ; 29 B

18. Only valid if option 17b was chosen
a) restrictions based on amount of SHV on the team or army level
b) restrictions based on the type of SHV on the team or army level

30 A ; 7 B

19. only valid if option 18a was chosen
a) Restrict amount of SHV on the team level – see question 20
b) Restrict amount of SHV on the army level – see question 21

14 A ; 21 B

20. Only valid if option 19a is chosen
a) maximum 1 SHV per team
b) maximum 2 SHV per team
c) maximum 3 SHV per team
d) more than 3 allowed per team

10 A ; 1 B ; 8 C ; 14D

21. Only valid if option 19b is chosen
a) maximum 1 SHV per army
b) maximum 2 SHV per army
c) maximum 3 SHV per army
d) more than 3 allowed per army

17 A ; 1 B ; 4 C ; 14D

22. claryfing vote for vote 21
a) Only 1 SHV of a certain type per army
b) Only 2 SHV of a certain type per army
c) more than 2 SHV of a certain type per army

21 A ; 0 B ; 16 C

23. Will we allow Dataslates at the ETC
a) Yes *
b) No *
*** Indicate if you would like to have some restrictions in place in case majority decides to go with yes. This will require more votes and discussion

36 A ; 2 B

24. Will we allow White Dwarf Entries at the ETC
a) Yes *
b) No *
*** Indicate if you would like to have some restrictions in place in case majority decides to go with yes. This will require more votes and discussion

29 A ; 9 B

25. Will we allow online only formations like the Skyhammer Formation at the ETC
a) Yes *
b) No *
*** Indicate if you would like to have some restrictions in place in case majority decides to go with yes. This will require more votes and discussion

26 A ; 12 B

26. Will we allow the use of Campain Book entries at the ETC
a) Yes *
b) No *
*** Indicate if you would like to have some restrictions in place in case majority decides to go with yes. This will require more votes and discussion

31 A ; 8 B

27. Will we allow the use of Escalation book entries at the ETC
a) Yes *
b) No *
*** Indicate if you would like to have some restrictions in place in case majority decides to go with yes. This will require more votes and discussion

17 A ; 21 B

28. Will we allow the use of Stronghold Assault at the ETC
a) Yes *
b) No *
*** Indicate if you would like to have some restrictions in place in case majority decides to go with yes. This will require more votes and discussion

28 A ; 11 B

29. Shall we adjust the pointsize (1850) played at the ETC?
a) Yes
b) No

Q29: 18 A ; 20 B

30. Only valid if 29a was chosen as an option
a) 1750 pts
b) 1650 pts
c) 1500 pts

22 A ; 5 B ; 9 C

31. Use ETC WFB 2015 pairing process ( voir le sujet dédié sur ce forum qui explique cette proposition)
a/ yes
b/ no, use ETC 40k 2015 pairing process

14 A ; 10 B

32. Add terrain (je pense qu'il voulait dire "table") choice by players who have been put forward in the WFB pairing process
a/ yes
b/ no
As soon as this vote is over, a new vote will be set up to discuss the fineprint from vote 23-30, as well as votes around missiondesign and the pairing process.

12 A ; 11 B


Merci aux participants pour vos avis.
Le vote France sera fait sur cette base.

Merci pour la compil Mad!

Edit: réponse dans l'autre sujet!